webm
06-04 12:32 PM
Smarboy75,
bekugc statements above make sense..think about it..
Discuss the same with your attorney as well to get more clear picture..
bekugc statements above make sense..think about it..
Discuss the same with your attorney as well to get more clear picture..
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eb3India
12-10 10:20 AM
Visiting IV webiste after long time, (yes I got my GC :) ), feel nothing has changed, another flaming post from logiclife and he hopes it will touch egos of those ( as he calls them cowards), but my friend their skin so thick they won't even feel it,
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did

logiclife
06-09 03:24 PM
Gautamagg (Gautam Aggrwal) is Columban. Columban is praising Gautamagg but they are both the same person : Gautam Aggarwal.
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
Also, if you feel that IV is run by non-US educated consultants and the US educated employees are not represented or served by Immigration Voice, then please start your own organization to represent them and I will be happy to point the dissatisfied US educated members in your direction. For once, I would love to share the burden with others and if we have 2 organizations instead of one, atleast we can share the work load. So please, do start your website, your organization, your advocacy etc and take away members from us who are dissatisfied with IV and who feel that US educated folks need more representation and your organization could potentially provide that.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
Besides the points system, you should look at other aspects of the bill. Being US educated from top University, I am sure you will have no trouble in interpreting title 4 and title 5 of the bill. They are striking down AC21 provisions that provide extensions of H1 after 6 years based on pending labor for 1 one year or pending 140. And they are replacing it with pending immigration petition for 1 year as requirement for H1 extension. What that means is that there will be extensions granted to only those who have filed for 140 before May 21. After that, the 140s filed or approved would be invalid and they would have to wait for points system. And points system doesnt kick in until Oct 1 2008. So during the 1 year blackout period, between the President signing the bill and Oct 1 2008, there will be no immigration petitions filed. Old system will stop accepting 140 and new system (your favorite merits system) wont kick until Oct 2008. Combine that with removal of AC21 provisions for extensions of H1. There are tens of thousands who will be unable to extend their H1. These are the folks who are either in backlog centers or who have filed PERM but not filed 140 as of May 21 2007. Can you imagine the catastrophe? Go thru title 4 and title 5 and see the sections of INA it is amending.
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
Also, if you feel that IV is run by non-US educated consultants and the US educated employees are not represented or served by Immigration Voice, then please start your own organization to represent them and I will be happy to point the dissatisfied US educated members in your direction. For once, I would love to share the burden with others and if we have 2 organizations instead of one, atleast we can share the work load. So please, do start your website, your organization, your advocacy etc and take away members from us who are dissatisfied with IV and who feel that US educated folks need more representation and your organization could potentially provide that.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
Besides the points system, you should look at other aspects of the bill. Being US educated from top University, I am sure you will have no trouble in interpreting title 4 and title 5 of the bill. They are striking down AC21 provisions that provide extensions of H1 after 6 years based on pending labor for 1 one year or pending 140. And they are replacing it with pending immigration petition for 1 year as requirement for H1 extension. What that means is that there will be extensions granted to only those who have filed for 140 before May 21. After that, the 140s filed or approved would be invalid and they would have to wait for points system. And points system doesnt kick in until Oct 1 2008. So during the 1 year blackout period, between the President signing the bill and Oct 1 2008, there will be no immigration petitions filed. Old system will stop accepting 140 and new system (your favorite merits system) wont kick until Oct 2008. Combine that with removal of AC21 provisions for extensions of H1. There are tens of thousands who will be unable to extend their H1. These are the folks who are either in backlog centers or who have filed PERM but not filed 140 as of May 21 2007. Can you imagine the catastrophe? Go thru title 4 and title 5 and see the sections of INA it is amending.
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Ramba
03-14 12:07 PM
People with EB3-India may not expect any kind of fast movement in near future, unless law changes. It will be in snail phase. It is waste discussion to analyze howmany people filled EB3 LC from India in 2002,2003 etc. Generally EB3 is very high demand catagory from all accross the world. EB3 contains skilled worker catagory including cooks, nurses, and so many many non-professional occupations. All the discusion are focussed on demand by Indian IT folks, by ignoring other spectrum of the demand by other group of peoples. Therfore no matter what; EB3-India will get only 3000 EB3 GC per year (Approxmatly 1500 primary).
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
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desi3933
03-21 07:24 PM
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If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
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You are right. .. New H1B and Transferred H1B are same
I also mentioned this in a past post of this thread (Page 5) as well
Typically, H-1B transfer means new H-1B petition for the beneficiary who is/was in H-1B status and is not subject to H-1 cap.
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If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
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You are right. .. New H1B and Transferred H1B are same
I also mentioned this in a past post of this thread (Page 5) as well
Typically, H-1B transfer means new H-1B petition for the beneficiary who is/was in H-1B status and is not subject to H-1 cap.
humdesi
03-20 10:15 PM
I don't understand the confusion. Didn't Ron mention in an earlier post that the DoS guy who makes cutoff decisions said that all new EB-2 India visas will only come from EB-1 unused numbers?
Doesn't matter what Ron thinks - what matters is what DoS is planning to do.
Doesn't matter what Ron thinks - what matters is what DoS is planning to do.
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dgs
06-14 06:14 PM
This is really great news!!
I have a labor approved. Not yet filed I-140.
Can I file I-140 and 485 together now?
Does it matter if I-140 is filed as premium or regular if 485 can be applied for along with the I-140?
Also, I called in the USCIS number (202) 663-1541 that has the recorded message with the priority dates. The ones that are employment based are not all current for India. They are not the older dates too...something like 2005 for EB3 India (unless I was too excited that I didn't hear it right!)
Are all employment based categories for India really current?
Thanks...
I have a labor approved. Not yet filed I-140.
Can I file I-140 and 485 together now?
Does it matter if I-140 is filed as premium or regular if 485 can be applied for along with the I-140?
Also, I called in the USCIS number (202) 663-1541 that has the recorded message with the priority dates. The ones that are employment based are not all current for India. They are not the older dates too...something like 2005 for EB3 India (unless I was too excited that I didn't hear it right!)
Are all employment based categories for India really current?
Thanks...
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chitta123
02-08 04:08 PM
Thank you all for the quick and helpful replies.
My current employer has assured me that they will not revoke my LC or I-140. It is a huge company and I think it will stick to its word. It will not have any use for the LC, I-140 anyway as the whole group was laid off and the product moved to India.
So, it seems that if I transfer to company B they will be able to file for an H1 extension beyond 6 years based on I-140 approved with company A. I can then start my GC process with B again while keeping my old priority date.
Once again, all your replies were immensely helpful.
Thanks
My current employer has assured me that they will not revoke my LC or I-140. It is a huge company and I think it will stick to its word. It will not have any use for the LC, I-140 anyway as the whole group was laid off and the product moved to India.
So, it seems that if I transfer to company B they will be able to file for an H1 extension beyond 6 years based on I-140 approved with company A. I can then start my GC process with B again while keeping my old priority date.
Once again, all your replies were immensely helpful.
Thanks
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GCBy3000
07-18 10:11 AM
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
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akottai
05-27 01:11 PM
Dear all,
I am a silent admirer of all the great work that you do. You are doing a commendable job for the voice-less powerless immigrant population. I have sent a modest contribution of 50 by check. Won't be able to join you all due to prior commitments.
Thanks
akottai
I am a silent admirer of all the great work that you do. You are doing a commendable job for the voice-less powerless immigrant population. I have sent a modest contribution of 50 by check. Won't be able to join you all due to prior commitments.
Thanks
akottai
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HumHongeKamiyab
07-17 08:16 PM
I feel sorry for you. I sincerely request admins to reinstate you here.
Hi all, this is the new ID of bigtime007. As many has noticed, I was banned for the following reason:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
Hi all, this is the new ID of bigtime007. As many has noticed, I was banned for the following reason:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
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panky72
06-30 05:07 PM
No its I-485 I just cut and pasted the two emails I received, first at 10am then the second at 3 pm check online and the system had same messages. If its true I am having a party wow man thanks I did come to US in 1997. I do have a labor which was approved under RIR PD date 2004 but the employer refused to file I-140. Then again filed PERM in 2007 under EB2 and filed I-140/I-485 based on this PERM
Congratulations on your green card approval. Make sure you talk to your attorney also about this. I have seen an article on Muthy.com about green card approvals due to USCIS error.
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_app485.html
Congratulations on your green card approval. Make sure you talk to your attorney also about this. I have seen an article on Muthy.com about green card approvals due to USCIS error.
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_app485.html
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swaroopmukka
07-19 02:52 PM
SVAM77,
I'm planning to file my 140 and 485 concurrently on the same exact day. Will there be any problem with USCIS accepting my 485 because I'm filing 140 also on the same day ??
Thanks
I'm planning to file my 140 and 485 concurrently on the same exact day. Will there be any problem with USCIS accepting my 485 because I'm filing 140 also on the same day ??
Thanks
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asanghi
11-08 01:53 AM
Now that Democrats in charge, I think that there may be a chance Republicans might in fact be eager to pass Immigration related bill in house before they go out.
The president wants to have this bill passed for 2008 elections. In 2004 he made big deal on Soc Sec and immigration issues. Soc Sec is dead. So in order to show that he accomplished something he would like to pass immigration bill. He has shown eagerness to do so. Looking at another way, it must be clear to Republicans that they may have over-estimated public's anti-immigrant sentiment. If they don't pass the immigration bill now, democrats will get full credit for immigration reform.
So I think that unless there are more important issues, we might have a chance.
The president wants to have this bill passed for 2008 elections. In 2004 he made big deal on Soc Sec and immigration issues. Soc Sec is dead. So in order to show that he accomplished something he would like to pass immigration bill. He has shown eagerness to do so. Looking at another way, it must be clear to Republicans that they may have over-estimated public's anti-immigrant sentiment. If they don't pass the immigration bill now, democrats will get full credit for immigration reform.
So I think that unless there are more important issues, we might have a chance.
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Hermione
09-26 09:07 AM
Let us not also forget that current estimates are that there are 1.1 million applications pending at all stages of the green card process. Notwithstanding the new additions each year.
Not looking quite so quick still, I remain unconvinced that things will speed up.
Is this an estimate for EB or for all green card applications? Because I absolutely do not believe this is the number. There is just no about H1Bs issued to produce this number.
Not looking quite so quick still, I remain unconvinced that things will speed up.
Is this an estimate for EB or for all green card applications? Because I absolutely do not believe this is the number. There is just no about H1Bs issued to produce this number.
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buehler
06-14 07:51 AM
I missed this news.
Who can apply for 485?
My Labor was approved and I-140 pending.
My PD is Feb, 2006.
Can I apply for 485 now.
My both daughters are in India.
If I can apply now then I will have to bring my daughters immdtly to U.S.
Please can some body help me.
With regards,
Ricky
You can apply and if you want to file for your daughters, then they will have to be present here at the time of filing.
Who can apply for 485?
My Labor was approved and I-140 pending.
My PD is Feb, 2006.
Can I apply for 485 now.
My both daughters are in India.
If I can apply now then I will have to bring my daughters immdtly to U.S.
Please can some body help me.
With regards,
Ricky
You can apply and if you want to file for your daughters, then they will have to be present here at the time of filing.
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Almond
07-05 11:44 AM
I agree..calling USCIS customer service doesn't make any sense.They are all front desk people who have no clue of what's happening inside.
Of course it makes sense, that is why they are called "Customer Service". Continuing to call them at this time when we know they know NOTHING doesn't make sense. But it sure is funny to hear the crap they have to say:D
Of course it makes sense, that is why they are called "Customer Service". Continuing to call them at this time when we know they know NOTHING doesn't make sense. But it sure is funny to hear the crap they have to say:D
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GC08
06-08 08:34 PM
-Jack Nicholson-
You may also say ... In this country, no one gives it to you. You have to fight for it. :rolleyes:
You may also say ... In this country, no one gives it to you. You have to fight for it. :rolleyes:
tonyHK12
03-27 03:58 PM
Its personal choice if and when they want to start the GC process if there is an opporunity. I also didnt start my GC even though my first employer wanted to start the GC for me in 2005 and I refused for whatever stupid reasons...which I am regreting now
Yeah me too, in 2005 a company wanted to apply for me in EB3, though I was qualified for EB2. I didn't feel it was right to apply in EB3, unless you were a fresher.
I quit and joined an Wall street company in 2007, who finally applied in the right category
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Yeah me too, in 2005 a company wanted to apply for me in EB3, though I was qualified for EB2. I didn't feel it was right to apply in EB3, unless you were a fresher.
I quit and joined an Wall street company in 2007, who finally applied in the right category
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sajidmd
10-21 02:44 PM
My wife is planning to visit India and stay there for around 4 months. What should be the answer to 2nd question, On page2....
Expected Length of Trip ? Is it safe to mention 4 months or ??
Thanks!!
Expected Length of Trip ? Is it safe to mention 4 months or ??
Thanks!!
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