BPforGC
07-18 07:32 PM
Based on what my lawyer said, this is how it happens.
1. LC/I-140 processing is independent from I-485.
2. I-485 RD is critical.
3. When your date comes and when they review your application, they will check if your I-140 is approved or not. Then they will look in the application and if everything is ok (FP, background check - Name check etc) and if VISA number is available, you will get it.
If they don't have VISA numbers available, they will not process any I-485. So, availability of VISA numbers is key when they process I-485.
PD of I-140 comes into play when we have retrogression. Since they opened flood gates, all of us who apply now will go by our I-485 RD. Until substantial numbers of our applications are cleared, there is no chance that future VISA bulletins will be current. Even though future VISA bulletins show PD way earlier than your PD, your I-485 may get approved since you are in the system.
So, who ever gets to apply I-485 are in much better shape than people with PDs in 2002 or 2003 but do not file I-485 now.
REMEMBER, USCIS USUALLY DO NOT FOLLOW ORDER AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY LUCKY OTHER THAN TURNING ALL THE RIGHT PAPER WORK.
Good luck folks.:p :confused: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek: :mad: :D
1. LC/I-140 processing is independent from I-485.
2. I-485 RD is critical.
3. When your date comes and when they review your application, they will check if your I-140 is approved or not. Then they will look in the application and if everything is ok (FP, background check - Name check etc) and if VISA number is available, you will get it.
If they don't have VISA numbers available, they will not process any I-485. So, availability of VISA numbers is key when they process I-485.
PD of I-140 comes into play when we have retrogression. Since they opened flood gates, all of us who apply now will go by our I-485 RD. Until substantial numbers of our applications are cleared, there is no chance that future VISA bulletins will be current. Even though future VISA bulletins show PD way earlier than your PD, your I-485 may get approved since you are in the system.
So, who ever gets to apply I-485 are in much better shape than people with PDs in 2002 or 2003 but do not file I-485 now.
REMEMBER, USCIS USUALLY DO NOT FOLLOW ORDER AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY LUCKY OTHER THAN TURNING ALL THE RIGHT PAPER WORK.
Good luck folks.:p :confused: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek: :mad: :D
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mrdelhiite
06-21 01:38 PM
This has been there since a long time . Every new process has its backes and the resisters . The president of the US resisted the telephone also when Edison invented it . Relax don't lose your sleep about it . Atlanta is backlogged due to the incompetence and heavy workload of workers there . nothing more , nothing less .
I agree with you 100%... no point in being paranoid about what can happen ... if it does we will find a way to deal with it
-M
I agree with you 100%... no point in being paranoid about what can happen ... if it does we will find a way to deal with it
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madhuvj
09-12 01:22 PM
I dont mind getting Red Dots, But please, for god's sake. Stop doing this fruitless campaign. Do you guys think Giving a Clock or sending flowers solved earlier problems. Enough of this Gandhiian ways. This country is not good for people like Gandhi. May be Flower campaign got noticed and created a whole new experience for the USCIS, but i dont think it really helped them do anything in our favor. Already, folks here are wasting their money, year after year, on their EADs and APs for them and their family. Just think for a second guys, It costs us 1000 $ to maintain status on AOS and visit our family and this is going on indefinitely for our years now. USCIS/Congress does not want to do anything about this, They are happy to get the revenue. Even if you think a minimum of 200,000 people spending 1000 $ an year, it is 200,000,000 $. Iam not even considering the amount they spent on other things like H1B extension, H4s..... Just think about the Dollars they are making on this Green Card SCAM. Accept it or not, it is indirectly affecting our lives, even though, GC is not really important for lot of folks. Iam one such person, I have a good client and a decent employer and iam with the same folks for 9 years and they are happy extending my H1b at their cost. But still, this whole GC game, is sometimes disturbing. They are playing with our emotions and our loved ones. So, GUYS we need to take a bigger and bolder step. To me, Calling people, sending flowers and letters explaining the situation makes no sense. Do you think, those guys dont really know about our situation. Let us a make a bold move. We are 70,000 folks just here in ImmigrationVoice. Let us compile a letter,that pushes USCIS/Congress on improving the condition. As long as they get those EXTRA Dollars, i dont think anything is going to happen. Even if they remove the provision to apply for GC while on H1B, it is good for us, for we will know that in advance and can plan on shaping our future better, instead of this false promise and emotional torture. I think even AILA or other Lawyers are useless. They dont want to do anything for us. All they do is, interpret the LAW , and explain us in the way we can understand. They dont take steps to fight for the justice. All they care is the money. So let us make our point clear to USCIS, we dont want to waste money on EADs and APs and H1B extensions. To me, it should be free of cost, since it is their problem that they dont work efficiently. Why should we pay 1000s of dollars for their inefficiency. let us all 70,000 work together in sending a letter to USCIS or Congress that We are not willing to spend any more money on the GC knowing that we are not going to get it anyway. Unless, we do something like this, the real impact of our situation will never get noticed. Again, our main aim should be to let them know that we are here legally and we deserve to be treated better and not just that IV is a group that will send flowers, to express its presence.
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makemygc
09-10 02:34 PM
Manish,
Rally is not this tuesday but next tuesday. Will that help you to come?
Thanks
MakeMyGC
Though small, I made my contribution ($100 via Google).
I can't make it to the rally this tuesday but just trying to do whatever I can to support the cause.
Good luck,
Manish Jain.
Rally is not this tuesday but next tuesday. Will that help you to come?
Thanks
MakeMyGC
Though small, I made my contribution ($100 via Google).
I can't make it to the rally this tuesday but just trying to do whatever I can to support the cause.
Good luck,
Manish Jain.
gova123
08-02 05:41 PM
Bumping ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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05-28 02:27 PM
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pappu
12-11 12:16 AM
It looks like they have heard from IV members about the spillover rules and their clarification about the QUARTERLY spillover is useful. Also them categorically stating that any spillover visas would be used in strict order of PD is reassuring. Whether they actually practice or not, it is good that they have gone on record as saying that is the way it should be.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
I agree. It was interesting to see them use our style of predicting with and without spillover. It seems they have paid attention to the recent report we had published. We should continue to ask questions and provide suggestions to the administration officials.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
I agree. It was interesting to see them use our style of predicting with and without spillover. It seems they have paid attention to the recent report we had published. We should continue to ask questions and provide suggestions to the administration officials.
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billu
09-01 10:17 PM
I'm only posting a response cause my response is sad and funny at same time. No one's beat me yet???
Came in Dec 1990
Been on various visas including F1 (grad and undergrad) and H1.
Didn't get to file GC till 2007 unfortunately...
i think u beat them all hands down.....my story is landed in jan 2004 for M.S.....started job in april 2005.....employer kept delaying GC through various tactics.....finally i revolted in july 2007 at the time of famous fiasco.......still missed the bus as employer cited 30 day rule, waiting period etc etc.......now with a PD of october 2007 in EB 3 India, I have no hope........those of you who ported successfully from EB3 to EB2, please shed some light on how to do that and what does USCIS look for in EB2 applications.......EB2 is my only hope now....its either EB2 or back to india by december for me....
Came in Dec 1990
Been on various visas including F1 (grad and undergrad) and H1.
Didn't get to file GC till 2007 unfortunately...
i think u beat them all hands down.....my story is landed in jan 2004 for M.S.....started job in april 2005.....employer kept delaying GC through various tactics.....finally i revolted in july 2007 at the time of famous fiasco.......still missed the bus as employer cited 30 day rule, waiting period etc etc.......now with a PD of october 2007 in EB 3 India, I have no hope........those of you who ported successfully from EB3 to EB2, please shed some light on how to do that and what does USCIS look for in EB2 applications.......EB2 is my only hope now....its either EB2 or back to india by december for me....
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DDLMODES
07-06 10:53 AM
OK can u explain how this info can be used against us...what the heck did we do?
We did not do anything but we are in the middle of it as future applicants thay will go through the same process.
If they decide that this process is a threat to security because they do not check people good enough how would that help us in any way ?
You know that's all they will care about in this whole process, right ? Once the public and the press gets that idea, is only downhill from there...
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We did not do anything but we are in the middle of it as future applicants thay will go through the same process.
If they decide that this process is a threat to security because they do not check people good enough how would that help us in any way ?
You know that's all they will care about in this whole process, right ? Once the public and the press gets that idea, is only downhill from there...
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Macaca
09-12 01:19 PM
Skilled legal immigrants from all over US will rally peacefully in Washington DC on Sep 18 at 9:00 AM. The rally wants to draw Congress's attention to 10+ year delays in skilled employment based (EB) immigration. The rally is being organized by Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org), a non-profit grassroot advocacy group of skilled EB immigrants from all countries.
It takes 7+ years (after 2+ years on student visa followed by 1 year on practical training) to become a resident. Some of these immigrants have returned to their countries (or gone to other countries) causing reverse brain drain: educating immigrants on tax payer dollars to compete against the tax payers. There are 1+ Million immigrants in EB immigration process.
EB immigrants have patiently waited 2+ years with focus on every other kind of immigration reform. This is inspite of the fact that EB immigration has the simplest solution: increase EB immigrant quota and streamline EB immigration process.
Skilled EB immigrants are scientists, engineers, business administrators, health care professionals, ... These immigrants are college educated but also have US MS and US PhD.
EB immigrants have generated millions as Visa Education and Training Fee (http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/CRS%20H1B%20fees%20Jan%202007.pdf) (through visa application fee) and contributed billions to Social Security System (http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=12396).
Please cover the rally and EB immigration issues during rally week.
It takes 7+ years (after 2+ years on student visa followed by 1 year on practical training) to become a resident. Some of these immigrants have returned to their countries (or gone to other countries) causing reverse brain drain: educating immigrants on tax payer dollars to compete against the tax payers. There are 1+ Million immigrants in EB immigration process.
EB immigrants have patiently waited 2+ years with focus on every other kind of immigration reform. This is inspite of the fact that EB immigration has the simplest solution: increase EB immigrant quota and streamline EB immigration process.
Skilled EB immigrants are scientists, engineers, business administrators, health care professionals, ... These immigrants are college educated but also have US MS and US PhD.
EB immigrants have generated millions as Visa Education and Training Fee (http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/CRS%20H1B%20fees%20Jan%202007.pdf) (through visa application fee) and contributed billions to Social Security System (http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=12396).
Please cover the rally and EB immigration issues during rally week.
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wellwishergc
07-06 10:47 AM
Cool down, nixstor! you made your point! Take a deep breath, relax and post with a rational thought process. You are not helping by continuing to post negatively.
Personally, I think we can utilize this issue for the following:
1) Urging our congressmen/senators to pass some short-term benefits like recapture of visas (Obudsman report indicates that around 180,000 visas were not used in the past years). This is a golden opprountinity for us to urge congressmen/senators to pass a bill to release those unused numbers for getting immediate relief.
2) FBI name-check process needs to be made faster; so additional funding could help. (Obama Bill)
If we leverage this issue on the above and focus all the efforts on the above two points, we will be better off. I hope the core group is already working towards the above two objectives.
Yeah, tell me the same thing when all of us will wait for 6 or 7 years if they dont fix the system and continue to do security check on us. We know that we are NOT bad people. Its difficult to prove that in existing conditions. People are paranoid about every thing right now.
Personally, I think we can utilize this issue for the following:
1) Urging our congressmen/senators to pass some short-term benefits like recapture of visas (Obudsman report indicates that around 180,000 visas were not used in the past years). This is a golden opprountinity for us to urge congressmen/senators to pass a bill to release those unused numbers for getting immediate relief.
2) FBI name-check process needs to be made faster; so additional funding could help. (Obama Bill)
If we leverage this issue on the above and focus all the efforts on the above two points, we will be better off. I hope the core group is already working towards the above two objectives.
Yeah, tell me the same thing when all of us will wait for 6 or 7 years if they dont fix the system and continue to do security check on us. We know that we are NOT bad people. Its difficult to prove that in existing conditions. People are paranoid about every thing right now.
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test101
07-24 04:40 PM
Even if you are RN licenes and educated in the USA. You still need a visa screen. I had to apply for visa screen. In my case it took only 1 week to get it. you can apply on line and send your documents. I'm not sure about the EAD though. YOu may wwant to post your question on the free Consultaion thread.
www.cgfns.org
www.cgfns.org
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somegchuh
01-03 01:40 PM
More than 4 years ago when I started the process I really was looking forward to getting a GC and eventually citizenship. But a lot has changed in the last 4 years. GC process has become much harder (after 4 years I am yet to file for 140 and 485). At the same time the economy back home is booming. So the financial incentive to go thru the long process is really going down by the day.
More than the financial factor, I have gradually started realizing that no matter how many friends I make here its never the same as having a large family network that provides for social stability for each family. Also, I have started observing aging indian couples in US who came in 60's and 70's. They look pretty lonely and sad. I guess the question I am asking myself today is, is finanical success today worth the social loss I will face once I retire?
PS: Does anyone know how to turn a thread into a poll?
More than the financial factor, I have gradually started realizing that no matter how many friends I make here its never the same as having a large family network that provides for social stability for each family. Also, I have started observing aging indian couples in US who came in 60's and 70's. They look pretty lonely and sad. I guess the question I am asking myself today is, is finanical success today worth the social loss I will face once I retire?
PS: Does anyone know how to turn a thread into a poll?
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javadeveloper
07-18 04:25 PM
Hello All,
Some food for thought.
As I understand we (i.e IV) has 21000 members and 14000 active members. If even each active member contrubute $ 20 per month, that would be $ 420,000 per month or about $ 5 Mn per year.
Imagine the miracles that we can do with that kind of fund!! And I am damn sure that we can afford $ 20 per month. Cost of few gallons of gas per month.
Non contributing, active members! Please wake up atleast now and do some soul searching!!!
I do agree , but I do not see any $20 contribution in google checkout or paypal.We have to mail the checks.I guess we can get more contributions if we include $25,$50,$75 contributions in google checkout as well as paypal.Correct me If I am missing some thing.
Some food for thought.
As I understand we (i.e IV) has 21000 members and 14000 active members. If even each active member contrubute $ 20 per month, that would be $ 420,000 per month or about $ 5 Mn per year.
Imagine the miracles that we can do with that kind of fund!! And I am damn sure that we can afford $ 20 per month. Cost of few gallons of gas per month.
Non contributing, active members! Please wake up atleast now and do some soul searching!!!
I do agree , but I do not see any $20 contribution in google checkout or paypal.We have to mail the checks.I guess we can get more contributions if we include $25,$50,$75 contributions in google checkout as well as paypal.Correct me If I am missing some thing.
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jindhal
04-30 02:11 PM
Does anyone else have the same problem. The webcast is erroring out.. saying page not found .
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ashutrip
06-16 06:44 PM
If you are stuck at Atlanta PERM backlog center , please email your case number and explain them that your application has been pending for a LONG time and request them to help us get out of this grave situation. Also, please post on this thread after you have sent an email so that others can be motivated to do the same. We need to send as many emails as possible to get any positive feedback. I know that DOL mentioned that they will start processing our applications soon, but we need to keep up the pressure from our end so that it has some positive effect.
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
what is your PD?
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
what is your PD?
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she81
07-24 08:33 PM
But it did not help much. Basically, when you call PBEC if you come across the switch board operator, who usually sits in the forenoon sessions, you will not have any luck at all. She would ask you to send any queries/questions thru your attorney. I called both DOL and PBEC numbers several times. DOL people, while souding helpful, always said that they are helpless. As for PBEC, most times, I ran into this operator who gruffly told me to talk to my lawyer. I did talk to someone other than the switch board operator on a few occassions and they did give me some useful information. I then used that information to pester my attorney to take some action. I found it is generally best to call on Wednesdays/Thursdays during afternoon sessions. This is just my personal observation. In your case, there is nothing wrong in trying, is there? It is better to try and fail than not trying at all...
My LC application with a PD of Dec 2002 has been rotting at PBEC and finally ad for my case started appearing on AJE web site last week. My attorney has not received any thing at all. Mind you, in my case the recruitment efforts were completed long before it was forwarded to PBEC. It is precisely for this reason my application was 'unfit' for conversion to RIR. They now insist upon doing recruitment all over again. Neither my employer nor my attorney is ever involved in thid PBEC recruitment. The horror never ends...
Go ahead and call. You might get lucky and actually talk to the analyst. When you start your conversation do not start off with request for information. Say that you found a problem with your case in screenshot or something like that. Any thing that makes your conversation separate from the rest. Goodluck.
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Thanks a lot for the heads up. I'm sure your advice will come in handy tomorrow. I've asked my attorney to call, but they simply won't venture into it and recommend waiting until the end of this month. Finally, I'm taking it in my hands.
I'm sorry to hear your saga. It all boils down to sheer good luck, isn't it? Good luck with your case.
My LC application with a PD of Dec 2002 has been rotting at PBEC and finally ad for my case started appearing on AJE web site last week. My attorney has not received any thing at all. Mind you, in my case the recruitment efforts were completed long before it was forwarded to PBEC. It is precisely for this reason my application was 'unfit' for conversion to RIR. They now insist upon doing recruitment all over again. Neither my employer nor my attorney is ever involved in thid PBEC recruitment. The horror never ends...
Go ahead and call. You might get lucky and actually talk to the analyst. When you start your conversation do not start off with request for information. Say that you found a problem with your case in screenshot or something like that. Any thing that makes your conversation separate from the rest. Goodluck.
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Thanks a lot for the heads up. I'm sure your advice will come in handy tomorrow. I've asked my attorney to call, but they simply won't venture into it and recommend waiting until the end of this month. Finally, I'm taking it in my hands.
I'm sorry to hear your saga. It all boils down to sheer good luck, isn't it? Good luck with your case.
deardar
09-14 12:13 PM
bumping!
sunny1000
09-29 02:05 PM
and the last recapture was a bill that was passed in congress.
efforts are on for a recapture. but the valid question raised is: how does a recapture help when USCIS can't even process 140,000 a year?
IV was founded right after the failure of a bill in the house in Dec 2005 that was intended to re-capture unused visa numbers (which passed in the Senate BTW, thanks to Sen Specter).
So, I guess my point is that it is not easy even to get the congress to recapture visa numbers....
efforts are on for a recapture. but the valid question raised is: how does a recapture help when USCIS can't even process 140,000 a year?
IV was founded right after the failure of a bill in the house in Dec 2005 that was intended to re-capture unused visa numbers (which passed in the Senate BTW, thanks to Sen Specter).
So, I guess my point is that it is not easy even to get the congress to recapture visa numbers....
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