gc_chahiye
06-26 11:58 AM
cloture vote on CIR just started
only 30 or so No votes (I counted 26 then a splattering of NOs here and there came in later), lots of Aye's. Looks like atleast Cloture will pass. There is still one more Cloture vote to go on thursday then the final vote. Hope it stumbles going forward, its looking bad right now (meaning there is support for his bill)
only 30 or so No votes (I counted 26 then a splattering of NOs here and there came in later), lots of Aye's. Looks like atleast Cloture will pass. There is still one more Cloture vote to go on thursday then the final vote. Hope it stumbles going forward, its looking bad right now (meaning there is support for his bill)
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WFGC2006
06-09 11:21 PM
Please don't shoot me for these thoughts, but please consider it only for sake of discussion.
Now that CIR is defeated again for nth time, We really need to consider rethinking about our stratergy,
I guess we are about 15K membership and if we include spouse and take a guess every one in five has dependent kid to join (wild gusstimate) we come close 35-40K approximately.
most of us are legal and we should not having any issue in getting Green card with current law only if backlog is cleared and we recapture visa numbers.
to recapture visa numbers we don't need any legislative reform AC-21 does apply,
We need to spend more energy in researching possibility of recapturing 90K visas and we will be done,
I really don't think we have strength and will power to fight legislation change along with illegals for most controversial subject.
we are legals letz use it our advantage.
I did belive in piggy back ride along with illegals, but I don't any more,
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=56032#post56032
Follow this post and read on !!!!
I got RED CARDED because of this post.
Now that CIR is defeated again for nth time, We really need to consider rethinking about our stratergy,
I guess we are about 15K membership and if we include spouse and take a guess every one in five has dependent kid to join (wild gusstimate) we come close 35-40K approximately.
most of us are legal and we should not having any issue in getting Green card with current law only if backlog is cleared and we recapture visa numbers.
to recapture visa numbers we don't need any legislative reform AC-21 does apply,
We need to spend more energy in researching possibility of recapturing 90K visas and we will be done,
I really don't think we have strength and will power to fight legislation change along with illegals for most controversial subject.
we are legals letz use it our advantage.
I did belive in piggy back ride along with illegals, but I don't any more,
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=56032#post56032
Follow this post and read on !!!!
I got RED CARDED because of this post.
bigtime008
07-18 11:11 AM
I got intrigued about bigtime. Looked something up. Here is his post
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=84985#post84985
Note, posted on 06-16-2007.
"How long has your case been pending? My case is pending for only one month, not sure if my lawyer and employer will send email for me."
Which case is pending? LC? PERM? ONE MONTHS? Is this a BEC victim?
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=84985#post84985
Note, posted on 06-16-2007.
"How long has your case been pending? My case is pending for only one month, not sure if my lawyer and employer will send email for me."
Which case is pending? LC? PERM? ONE MONTHS? Is this a BEC victim?
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
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general17
07-16 04:13 PM
I am on L1 Visa & I went to SSN office to apply SSN for my child (L-2 Visa). They refused to accept my application and they wanted Documentation from the appropriate government entity explaining the need for the SSN as per
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510
Please let me know what should I do next to apply for SSN.
Hi Senior Members,
Can any one answer to my previous question.
Thanks
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510
Please let me know what should I do next to apply for SSN.
Hi Senior Members,
Can any one answer to my previous question.
Thanks
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raysaikat
11-18 11:52 AM
Credit cards are issued mostly to GC holders only unless they have a checking account as well with the institution-unless one lies in the application. -snip-.
Unless there has been a change in the policy after 2000, one only needs SSN and a checking account (not necessarily at the same bank) to get a credit card. It is true that having no prior credit record is a hindrance, but that mostly affects the credit line (you will get a small credit line). All F1 students with some kind of assistantship/scholarship/stipend would satisfy that. AmEx used to be a very good choice for students that time.
Unless there has been a change in the policy after 2000, one only needs SSN and a checking account (not necessarily at the same bank) to get a credit card. It is true that having no prior credit record is a hindrance, but that mostly affects the credit line (you will get a small credit line). All F1 students with some kind of assistantship/scholarship/stipend would satisfy that. AmEx used to be a very good choice for students that time.
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sprash
01-14 02:50 PM
I was wondering if there is any documentation that we can show the employers to dissuade them from revoking I-140 when leaving the petitioning company...
I have started a thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23116) so that the documentation does not get buried in other other threads... Please reply if you have any links/info.
Thanks in advance!
I have started a thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23116) so that the documentation does not get buried in other other threads... Please reply if you have any links/info.
Thanks in advance!
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ThinkTwice
07-20 12:58 AM
Did you know that Aman Kapoor the founder of IV has contributed $64000 of his personal money towards the efforts of IV? Yes that is correct Sixty Four Thousand USD. http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...eek+exclusives
I was dumbfounded when I first found this out. The man must have real conviction and courage and belief in himself and this effort to do such a selfless act and I am not even talking about the hours and hours of time, mental energy, physical stress and emotional capital he must have invested into OUR effort and I am not talking about all that because that is immeasurable and there is not much we can do to repay all that back but there is something we can do.
Please take out your wallet and repay IV core members who have contributed selflessly to OUR cause.
Every one of us has benefited in some way or the other because of our association to IV and who do we have to thank but the core team who have put so much on the line for OUR cause.
Please join in this effort to reimburse the expenses incurred by IV core to fight for OUR cause. Join http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
I was dumbfounded when I first found this out. The man must have real conviction and courage and belief in himself and this effort to do such a selfless act and I am not even talking about the hours and hours of time, mental energy, physical stress and emotional capital he must have invested into OUR effort and I am not talking about all that because that is immeasurable and there is not much we can do to repay all that back but there is something we can do.
Please take out your wallet and repay IV core members who have contributed selflessly to OUR cause.
Every one of us has benefited in some way or the other because of our association to IV and who do we have to thank but the core team who have put so much on the line for OUR cause.
Please join in this effort to reimburse the expenses incurred by IV core to fight for OUR cause. Join http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
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garybanz
09-20 01:51 PM
San Jose was a local CA event planned almost spontaneously. DC was an event planned months in advance. People were offered Free ride, Free plane fare, Free food (in Gurdwaras). Yet how many participated?
I have been refraining from posting on this point, as I wouldn't like to belittle the contributions of the strong team from California and the numbers they brought to the rally.
But let's face it. CA has more EB immigrants than the next three. Look at the recent 2006 Performance report from DoL (available at Mathew Oh website). CA had 21,000+ labor petitions compared to NY - 7,000, NJ - 7,000(?) , TX - 5000. As you can see CA scores more than the next three states put together.
If 40 people participate from NY, it's as good as 120 from Cal. Percentagewise it would be the same. If 40 peope walk in Michigan ( 2000 Labor petitions) statistically it would surpass CA, percentagewise.
It's a known thing that only 5%-10% of the population participates actively in the most successful movements be it American Revolution or struggle for Indian Independence. We haven't reached that critical mass yet ( at the regional level)
There is an enthusiasm right now. But how long before the fatigue sets in? Rallies need to be minimal, held with certain strategic target and should serve some specific purpose.
Weekend rallies attracting bigger crowds is a myth. Be prepared to listen to reasons like - Shucks I have to mow the lawn, take kids to Bharatanatyam dance classes, I have relatives over for lunch etc.
With that logic if we hold rallies over the LONG weekends, we should attract bigger crowd, since people have 2-3 days to relax afterwards. And since people already plan to visit Orlando, LA etc to visit Disneyland, Universal etc., if we can hold rallies there we should attract the highest possible crowd. Do you think my idea will work?
I agree with you 100%. Question is - who'll bell the cat? Who will take the lead and sacrifice their time, family life etc. to plan, organize and conduct these?
We need a fearless leader like Aman Kapoor, who can motivate and inspire people to participate, in every state. Where can we find them?
The answer is we all will have to bell the cat...and it will take more than a few attempts to do that.
IMHO, we should focus on what we can do rather than focusing on what some people could have done or what some one did to dampen the last attempt.
People will always find time for what is important to them; all we can do is try to make it more convenient and keep giving then enough opportunities.
We should have some sales/marketing people on this forum; they could have told us about how long it takes to convert a prospect to a customer.
Have faith my friend...
I have been refraining from posting on this point, as I wouldn't like to belittle the contributions of the strong team from California and the numbers they brought to the rally.
But let's face it. CA has more EB immigrants than the next three. Look at the recent 2006 Performance report from DoL (available at Mathew Oh website). CA had 21,000+ labor petitions compared to NY - 7,000, NJ - 7,000(?) , TX - 5000. As you can see CA scores more than the next three states put together.
If 40 people participate from NY, it's as good as 120 from Cal. Percentagewise it would be the same. If 40 peope walk in Michigan ( 2000 Labor petitions) statistically it would surpass CA, percentagewise.
It's a known thing that only 5%-10% of the population participates actively in the most successful movements be it American Revolution or struggle for Indian Independence. We haven't reached that critical mass yet ( at the regional level)
There is an enthusiasm right now. But how long before the fatigue sets in? Rallies need to be minimal, held with certain strategic target and should serve some specific purpose.
Weekend rallies attracting bigger crowds is a myth. Be prepared to listen to reasons like - Shucks I have to mow the lawn, take kids to Bharatanatyam dance classes, I have relatives over for lunch etc.
With that logic if we hold rallies over the LONG weekends, we should attract bigger crowd, since people have 2-3 days to relax afterwards. And since people already plan to visit Orlando, LA etc to visit Disneyland, Universal etc., if we can hold rallies there we should attract the highest possible crowd. Do you think my idea will work?
I agree with you 100%. Question is - who'll bell the cat? Who will take the lead and sacrifice their time, family life etc. to plan, organize and conduct these?
We need a fearless leader like Aman Kapoor, who can motivate and inspire people to participate, in every state. Where can we find them?
The answer is we all will have to bell the cat...and it will take more than a few attempts to do that.
IMHO, we should focus on what we can do rather than focusing on what some people could have done or what some one did to dampen the last attempt.
People will always find time for what is important to them; all we can do is try to make it more convenient and keep giving then enough opportunities.
We should have some sales/marketing people on this forum; they could have told us about how long it takes to convert a prospect to a customer.
Have faith my friend...
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mundada
01-12 02:39 PM
Again you are plain wrong. If a non-US citizen buys house in the US then does he have the right to own the house and live as he wants? The answer is YES.
Similarly, the US Constitution protects certain rights of non-US citizens who are in the US. One of them is right to the Equal Opportunity Employment. Now if a law is passed such that it intentionally or unintentionally goes against the right of the US citizens or non-US citizens, employed in the lands of the US, to Equal Opportunity Employment then YES the US courts can rule that the law is unconstitutional and hence no longer applies.
The Key Point: Equal opportunity employement advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)") and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, this thread is going no where. It will go on for 10+ pages and then die. I have seen may be 5 such threads on immigrationvoice and .
You are talking about rights as if you are a citizen of this country. Constitutional rights are given to the citizens of the country. It is not your right to stay in this country. Legally it is your employer who wants you here and petitions for your Greencard. Now can you get your employer to talk to your congressman or media or file a lawsuit for you?
There were some folks talking about lawsuit 3 months ago after the visa bulletin. That thread ran 9 pages and nobody did anything. 2 months ago again people talked about lawsuit and hunger strike. Nobody did anything. So it is not going to happen. Are you willing to spend thousands and keep going to courts or testify? Are you ok with your greencard application be used as an example and allow USCIS to scrutinize it?
This talk about lawsuit is all gas.
Similarly, the US Constitution protects certain rights of non-US citizens who are in the US. One of them is right to the Equal Opportunity Employment. Now if a law is passed such that it intentionally or unintentionally goes against the right of the US citizens or non-US citizens, employed in the lands of the US, to Equal Opportunity Employment then YES the US courts can rule that the law is unconstitutional and hence no longer applies.
The Key Point: Equal opportunity employement advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)") and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, this thread is going no where. It will go on for 10+ pages and then die. I have seen may be 5 such threads on immigrationvoice and .
You are talking about rights as if you are a citizen of this country. Constitutional rights are given to the citizens of the country. It is not your right to stay in this country. Legally it is your employer who wants you here and petitions for your Greencard. Now can you get your employer to talk to your congressman or media or file a lawsuit for you?
There were some folks talking about lawsuit 3 months ago after the visa bulletin. That thread ran 9 pages and nobody did anything. 2 months ago again people talked about lawsuit and hunger strike. Nobody did anything. So it is not going to happen. Are you willing to spend thousands and keep going to courts or testify? Are you ok with your greencard application be used as an example and allow USCIS to scrutinize it?
This talk about lawsuit is all gas.
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rockstart
09-30 01:35 PM
rockstart, what was the issue with Advance Parole, can you elaborate?
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xeixas
06-27 05:51 PM
I just got an email saying that my AP was approved, nothing about the EAD yet. Sorry if I missed this in some other thread, but are AP going to be valid only for 1 year? But EADs valid for 2 years?...
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sunnymit
05-20 01:10 PM
Me too... $50 contributed
BTW, am not sure if everyone who is donating always comes back and updates this thread with their donation info. So the total number might be higher than expected..
Cheers!
BTW, am not sure if everyone who is donating always comes back and updates this thread with their donation info. So the total number might be higher than expected..
Cheers!
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chmur
07-18 07:28 PM
Excellent response. I have been a silent admirer of IV for some time. IV has represented the aspirations of all the EB applicants. people should understand that the US allotment of visas to foreign Nationals is only based on what is fair for the country (US). It does not matter to them to what country the applicant belongs but what matters is the qualifications and their benefit to the advancement of the US. I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover. we have to concentrate our efforts on how we can improve conditions for every body affected by this retroression. efforts aimed at one category and that too one country will almost certainy fail. I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2. personally if I see a person from my country getting his visa approved, then I would feel very happy for him even if I am waiting for some time. I know it will be difficult, but atleast spare some joy for your country men and women who are getting some well deserved relief after such a long wait. one of my old friends told me once "if you have a friend from India, don't rely on him to help you, because you will not get much help moreover some people will only try to pull you down, but if you take people from other countries, it is exactly the opposite as they try to help each other in every possible way". I agree that it is very distressing for every one that the dates are retrogressed, but now that EB2 has moved, all of a sudden some people woke up from a deep sleep and started making these arguments that have no legal basis. None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable. I know a lot of people from EB2 protested at this wrong interpretation of the law, but I don't remember anyone ever criticizing IV for not taking up their cause even though we knew all along that spillover from EB1 to EB2 retrogressed countries was the right interpretation of the law. now some people are asking IV to take up an issue that is straight forward illegal as was clearly explained by DOS in a recent bulletin. instead of wasting time and efforts on such futile suggestions, people should concentrate on making some constructive effort along with IV helping every one involved in retrogression.
"I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover".
Are you suggesting we "Get over the spill over issue" because that's what current law says ??
Then by that logic, should we get over the "recapture issue" too?? because that's what current law says...now I am appalled.
As I understand, IV's objective is to change laws in favor of the immigrant community. Agreed Recapture is priority #1 since it alleviates majority of our concerns, but is it the only one ?? Especially when recapture happens to be the most difficult one to achieve . Answer is NO.
IV has scored so many smaller wins in the recent past to provide temporary relief to the community at large.
You say "I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2".
Some EB3s might have expressed jealousy .Shame on them. But most are expressing anger because EB3 is "U" and the spillover formula will keep them retrogressed for years to come and not because EB2 moved ahead . Godd for Eb2s.
Your India specific jealousy example can be applied of any country. India does not hold monopoly over jealous acts. People are jealous not countries.
You say, "None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable".
IMO, this is frivolous...this kind of questions can be countered by equally frivolous question like ..... How many Eb2s are now expressing their anger over this years interpretation of spillover laws by DOS??
"I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover".
Are you suggesting we "Get over the spill over issue" because that's what current law says ??
Then by that logic, should we get over the "recapture issue" too?? because that's what current law says...now I am appalled.
As I understand, IV's objective is to change laws in favor of the immigrant community. Agreed Recapture is priority #1 since it alleviates majority of our concerns, but is it the only one ?? Especially when recapture happens to be the most difficult one to achieve . Answer is NO.
IV has scored so many smaller wins in the recent past to provide temporary relief to the community at large.
You say "I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2".
Some EB3s might have expressed jealousy .Shame on them. But most are expressing anger because EB3 is "U" and the spillover formula will keep them retrogressed for years to come and not because EB2 moved ahead . Godd for Eb2s.
Your India specific jealousy example can be applied of any country. India does not hold monopoly over jealous acts. People are jealous not countries.
You say, "None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable".
IMO, this is frivolous...this kind of questions can be countered by equally frivolous question like ..... How many Eb2s are now expressing their anger over this years interpretation of spillover laws by DOS??
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needhelp!
02-10 12:28 AM
abhijitp & h4_hoping :)
I am also hoping for some tomorrow at a class.
Will update the letter counts on Monday. Buzz has it that IV has received ~1700 letters in the P O Box.
I am also hoping for some tomorrow at a class.
Will update the letter counts on Monday. Buzz has it that IV has received ~1700 letters in the P O Box.
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dagabaaj
09-25 10:42 AM
How many of you all dealt with the lawyer named Alex Elsberg?
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krishmunn
05-23 09:38 AM
I have been successfull to motivate a co-worker (EB3-ROW) to contribute to this cause.
Guys, remember not only India/China are suffering, EB3-ROW is also impacted . Forward this to anyone from EB3-ROW that you know
Guys, remember not only India/China are suffering, EB3-ROW is also impacted . Forward this to anyone from EB3-ROW that you know
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04-26 01:04 AM
Walking_Dude - you are an inspiration
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grupak
12-10 01:18 PM
IV is more than a website. We are trying to build a grassroots organization. Things are taking place offline as well.
It takes time to build the base. Strengthening the state chapters is one of the best thing we can do. Our first chapter meeting was very small as well but we will build from there. More members are forthcoming to meet lawmakers now.
pansworld: I might be able to help reach out to more people in NM
It takes time to build the base. Strengthening the state chapters is one of the best thing we can do. Our first chapter meeting was very small as well but we will build from there. More members are forthcoming to meet lawmakers now.
pansworld: I might be able to help reach out to more people in NM
ram04
12-08 07:09 PM
Thanks to all the moral support given by Chandvu,Pd Recapturing and all others.
With all your wishes and almighty blessings today I got MTR approval and I485 into reopen status.
My earlier employer revoked I 140 in Sept 08 . Applied MTR in OCT and got MTR approval and 485 reopened notification today.
However online still not updated - may be site is still down.
Thanks again.
- Ram
With all your wishes and almighty blessings today I got MTR approval and I485 into reopen status.
My earlier employer revoked I 140 in Sept 08 . Applied MTR in OCT and got MTR approval and 485 reopened notification today.
However online still not updated - may be site is still down.
Thanks again.
- Ram
rayoflight
05-20 03:21 PM
Thank You Ramesh
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